Your heaviest or lightest bottle?

Great wines, dreadful bottles. Each one takes up five spots in my wine fridge. I withdraw my Tollot-Beaut wines a bottle at a time.

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Going the other way I was struck by the lightness of this bottle, at a mere 401g. I started this thread by mentioning a Waitrose own label Chianti which was 416g.


Our wedding wine was quite heavy…


Blimey! Who had the job of pouring that?!?

Anyone seen any research on glass thickness and ageing?

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere

I know Tom Canavan (or is it? Now I’m questioning myself) has a thing about light-strike and glass make-up.

You probably mean Tom Stevenson, though quite a lot of people have a “thing” about it - me included. It affects not only wine, and beer drinkers seem to have more awareness than us winos.

It’s caused by UV and low wavelength blue light. I’ve never done tests myself, but aparently if you leave wine in bright sunlight even for a couple of hours the taint is quite noticeable.

From memory… glass composition may be important if the glass is clear because some types will remove UV better than others. But I think colour is more important, as brown/amber glass also removes low wavelength blue light better than green glass. And the darker the colour the better.

So go for dark brown bottles, and keep exposure to light, especially sunlight, to a minimum. Leaving a bottle of rosé in a clear glass bottle (or indeed any wine in a wine glass) in direct sunlight, irrespective of temperature, is to be avoided at all costs.


Your lightest bottle?
Do we have this subject covered?
We all know it’s good for the planet - Opening the bidding at 417g

(Edit: just spotted Richard opening at 416g and then 401g - so I guess we’re looking for sub 400g)


1030g empty:


Cru bourgeois bottlers encouraged to use a maximum weight of 390g.


That’s really good. I think a few other regulating bodies should take this example and repeat themselves.


Probably my heaviest at 907g, but also a lovely South African Chenin from Donkiesbaai, owned by Jean Englebrecht of Rust en Vrede fame


On the other hand


Presumably they are constructed on the same principles as the tetra paks. So not all good as there are still many areas that do not accept tetra paks, and I think there is only one recycling plant in the country that processes them (though I may be out of date there) and that is not the easiest of operations.

On the other hand I believe glass is not recycled as much as it could/should be due to problems with difficulties of sorting broken glass and the weight of glass being transported. Which of course is the other big (most important) environmental pro; glass is heavy to transport and, presumably, these
bottles will be much lighter.

Your prayers have been answered!


Another excessively heavy one. Wine pretty good, if a little cloying