The Pick

My copy arrived this morning and I have been looking through it with interest. A few thoughts come to mind :

  1. There is no “member pick” on the England pages.

  2. Even amongst the most popular wines there are still so many I haven’t tried. Should do better!

  3. The prices. The Pazo de Villarei Albariño caught my eye. Not so long ago, up to 2019 in fact, I was buying this for £8 something a bottle. Now £12.95. It’s a fine wine but it’s a bit sad to see. No polemics here though.

  4. How about a little competition to see how the buyers’ tastes align with the members? Set a budget, perhaps around £100, and let each buyer put together a best 6 bottle case within the budget. Then after a few months count the sales.
    No, I can’t really see this happening, but might be fun.

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No, don’t encourage them. I really don’t care which are the most ‘popular’ (except to hope that they don’t include any that I like: mostly I was lucky this time). Selections by buyers are of some interest, but I don’t want a ‘snapshot’ of their range. I want a proper wine list, and I am afraid this type of thing is replacing it.


Fair enough, but I wasn’t thinking specifically from their own ranges. More their top six from the whole range. I wonder if there would then be any overlap?

Does TWs have such a thing as a staff discount scheme for staff who buy their wine from their employer? I would be surprised if they didn’t and of so what is that discount? As we own the company (ha ha!) surely we should know.

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The Wine Champions each year will give you a good idea of the buyers’ consensus, but of course that won’t necessarily correlate with members’ preferences.

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Only the buyers’ consensus on mid-range wines.

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More or less fits the range suggested by @Andy999

It’s ok if not all marketing is targeted at you specifically


Don’t they already do periodic mini articles featuring one buyer’s pick of wines from the whole list (and they don’t usually pick the mega expensive ones, whether by choice or direction!)?

Yes, actually I think they do though I didn’t think of it at the time. I was just a bit pre-occupied with the idea of some sort of head to head competition. Probably a bit of a silly idea.

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It would be better if they did include expensive wines, to indicate which they thought were worth it. I am happy to experiment for myself with low to medium price wines.


Top 6 QPR wines from the full inventory? Top 12 maybe?

Only 3 German wines in the booklet?! The whole of Germany given less space than Alsace…

I haven’t actually received said booklet - that I’m aware of - can anyone post a link to the wines on the website at all please? TIA.

Is it not just the hub you can reach from the homepage?

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Might be, but the disparities are more gruelling in paper format :rofl:

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I would like that as well but I seriously doubt that TWS is ever going to say that a wine they sell is not worth it.

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It seems that no-one at TWS drinks red burgundy at home so perhaps there is no discount.

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But isn’t that the same for the current ‘Champions’? By implication, all their other wines are not as good value.

What a leap!

The champions is a blind taste with various people not just the buyers. Why can’t people have favourites/preferred wines at any given time? Society buyers select wines at various price points, just because they don’t necessarily highlight expensive wines doesn’t mean they aren’t good value.

There is also probably a bit of needing to appeal the common denominator, yes there are members that can afford expensive wines but probably not all. Throw in the current cost of living concerns I can also understand the need to highlight affordable wines for all.

I would expect that due to the way the society operates the buyers think all the wines they stock are worth it. There have been plenty of examples where wines are only stocked in some vintages or new wines are sold because the represent quality.

I really don’t understand the constant criticism of the marketing from the Society, not everything has a hidden agenda.