South African Saviour

Are those toward the richer, more tannic end of PN? I’m very interested in SA PN as well but currently it feels like a solitary pursuit. Some form of tasting event would be great.

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It would be great to have a tasting Im in London.

Not tannic but rich with loads of flavour and long aftertaste.

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I think Bristol would be a great middle point compromise :rofl:


Bristol is definitely a superior choice. Too many wine tastings in London already!

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To Delheim to have my long awaited Cape Malay Chicken Curry

I was pressed to try a glass of their new Riesling

Bottled without their usual label because this was a collaboration with a winemaker they’d flown in from Germany.

Riesling is not my ‘go-to’ wine but I really enjoyed this, crisply dry with a fresh lemon thread to it and none of the oily petrol notes I dislike (except in blind tastings).

And, allelujah, the sun came out as the clouds cleared.

This is the view we had, taken at the table.

and this is the view from that direction. You’ve caught us with the only dessert we’ve had so far, but I couldn’t resist Pinotage ice-cream.

We were only going to have a glass of wine each, Pinotage for me and Grand Reserve for Mrs M, but not only were we gifted a glass each of Riesling but co-owner Victor Sperling brought over a bottle of Vera Cruz Pinotage


Last dinner came this.


Ordered a case of Cap Classique from Klein Constantia. At £18 a bottle, it’s one of the best values around for sparkling wine, anywhere.


Was in the Hemel en Aarde a few weeks back - Newton Johnson consistently on point and if you can try the single vineyard offerings ( Windansea and Seadragon) they are superb. No release from Restless River sadly. The Creation pinots were a little young but could be brilliant in a year or two. We had a glass of the Hamilton Russell later and that was pretty good.

Looks like the Boekenhoutskloof Cap Maritime project needs to findvineyards more suited to Pinot as their initial blocks are much better for Chardonnay. Will be great in the hands of Gottfried Mocke. He did share the 2020 BHK range with me when I was in Franschhoek and they are superb. Can also recommend their steakhouse and wine shop in the village InVINcible. The meat from Ryan Boon is superb.




Thank you Peter

Just reminded me that I should have posted this message here on Monday

NJ were the first to plant Albariño in :south_africa: and from the first release in 2013 it has come on in leaps and bounds since then. Mrs Quickben’s favourite wine with her plate from Ocean Badket.

Smiling about Glenwood as her neighbour’s house has same name. Previous owner only liked Chardonnay in unoaked expression and the Glenwood was a favourite - I suggested it was their house wine. The sign to the winery on the R45 in Franschhoek says “Glenwood/Four Paws” and next property along from our lane has a dog day care called Four Paws! Glenwood owned by a former colleague as well so always got a soft spot for it.

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Springfield also do it and our friend at NJ told us that there are more plantings on other estates yet to go into production. We brought a bottle of the NJ one back on our 2022 visit and have just unpacked the bottle of Springfield brought back this time.


Platter 2022 also shows Botanica and Spier as producers of varietal Albarino.

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And TWS is now offering the former :slight_smile:

A very enjoyable offer with dinner tonight.


Thoughts in Thelema Cabernet Sauvignon, Stellenbosch 2017?

I’ve enjoyed wines I’ve had from them in the past (particularly their now defunct Mint cuvee), good year and five stars from Platter. Is this as much of a no-brainer as it looks? How much more sleep does it need?


This is Kanonkop and manually punching down the cap ! Look at all those lovely grapes :grapes: :star_struck::heart_eyes:!


No brainer in my humble view… Thelema is consistently good, and this a good vintage. Price looks good, unless you could get it as part of a 25% off discount offer. I suspect future vintages will reflect recent inflation and be at £25+ mark.

I say this as a Thelema fan having lived in SA for a year around 2000. Loved exploring SA wines at that time and have always enjoyed Thelema since then.


I really liked the Thelema “Mint” as well - I have one bottle left of the last vintage before they tore it up.

If I wasn’t already 80% over budget YTD I’d probably plough in…

There is a lot of really good value in SA wines imho, especially when compared to some of the old world price cranks we keep seeing.