And to add to my comment yesterday: Thalabert 2014 better in Gabriel than Waterford. Fruit too accentuated in the latter.
To satisfy @AnaGramWords, also attempted out of a mug, an inexpensive short-stemmed wine glass and a pint glass (in appropriate servings). Perfectly acceptable, but definitely not as good. Mug better than inexpensive wine glass, for sure.
That said, I would suggest that the effect of glassware is less than temperature / mental state / wine quality / about a dozen other factors - so whilst I like having decent glasses I don’t think that it’s essential to enjoying the wine.
I voted No. Not because (for me) it doesn’t make a difference, but more because I ‘simply’ prefer the feel of drinking from a slightly thicker heavier glass… not for the taste, but the way it feels. A bit like my preference for a big thick rimmed mug for (Darjeeling and/or earl grey!) tea/coffee. Have therefore held off investing in anything other than the Dartington glasses my dad bought me a couple of years ago for my birthday!
At the risk of sounding Bah Humbug… I have several dislikes about the Riedel (et al) varietal glasses.
- They are MASSIVE (between 500 & 800 ml!) and therefore not suitable if you are only drinking a small measure. It just looks ridiculous.
- Not dishwasher friendly, due to their size and fragility requiring hand-washing. So again not suitable for everyday drinking.
- It’s hard to relax and ‘kick back’ with your friends, knowing the glass in your hand cost ‘that much’.
So I use a high end commercial restaurant glass from Nisbets, £3.33 ea.
Well to review this ad-hoc poll it does rather look like most (70%) think there is something in the posh/specific glass per grape variety thing.
Of course the other variable is the fact that we all taste differently too and often disagree with fellow tasters who are drinking the same wine from the same style of glass.
Not only that; even half a dozen glasses start to need some serious amount of shelf space.
These definition glasses that I really like are an identical copy of the Zalto.
One of the glasses is Spiegelau and the other Zalto. Place your bets
Ooh! Is the Spiegelau one the one that says Spiegelau on the base? [modern cameras are amazing]
Yes, I’m also a fan of the definition glasses. Have the universals and also a set of champagne flutes.
I broke my Zaltos far too easily……
I have both of these too, and agree, the Zalto is maybe 0-5% finer than the Spieg, but I can’t tell them apart when I pluck them off the shelf. Fair play!
I’ve also settled on the Spiegelau Definition Universal- my Gabriel Glas Standarts feel very clunky in comparison
Can you put them in the dishwasher?! And how durable are they?
Still £25/glass which isn’t cheap if they break easily!
Mine always go in the dishwasher
I usually hand wash but they’ve gone in the dishwasher without issue. There was a great deal on Amazon last year where they came out at around £13 a stem, but that seems to be long gone.
Thanks, I only ask because I’m lazy! They do look like very nice glasses but I often don’t use my best because they’re fragile & too big for the dishwasher and I can’t be bothered to wash them up by hand.
So a nice glass that’s dishwasher friendly is what I’m after.
My local TK Maxx is usually a good bet for nice-looking glasses at knock-down prices. Not just just wine, but whiskey and water glasses too.
I rarely use premium glasses as they just break too often (combination of crowded dishwashers, my kids using wine glasses for milk and squash no matter how many times I tell them not to, plus my own innate clumsiness). I’d rather channel my wine budget on the liquid itself.
So if like me you need to replace glasses every 6 months or so and aren’t totally fixed on a very specific shape/size/thickness, TX Maxx usually has a decent (if unpredictable) selection at a fraction of what you’d normally pay elsewhere.
Currently £37 for a pair of bordeaux glasses
Spiegelau & Nachtmann, 2 Piece Bordeaux Glass Set Crystal Glass 750ml Definition 1350165 https://amzn.eu/d/hRjn3cc
I wonder if they did a run on these after you posted this - I bought a couple. Just trying them out tonight, with a bottle of Three Crows Bridge Pa Hawke's Bay Syrah 2019
Very dinky compared to what I’ve been using - Mrs C is frightened by how fragile they look - so far, so good.
They are not as fragile as they look like. You easily get used to it
Available again at a decent price
I have ordered another pair
Identical to Zalto Burgundy
Spiegelau & Nachtmann, Set of 2 burgundy glasses, crystal glass, 960 ml, definition, 1350160 https://amzn.eu/d/aL1MwM9