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Favourite English wines


#82

Do you think the 2011 Sugrue Pierre is worth the £39 it is priced at? Contemplating buying…


#83

I have a bottle of their ‘the trouble with dreams’ not tried it but all wines made by Sugrue get great reviews. The cuvee Brendan O’Regan is supposed to be sensational probably a good alternative to the Tillington from Nyetimber


#84

We reviewed it here and liked it a lot.


#85

I’m revisiting this thread as I’m off to the US soon and am planning to take a local bottle for a friend. Current society list has Hambledon and Nyetimber at around the price I’d like to spend. Any thoughts on comparing the two? Leaning towards Hambledon, partly for historical value and partly as I’ve not tried it but have had Nyetimber once or twice and liked it


#86

In my humble opinion, they are both as good as each other. I would find it very difficult to decide! Both are fine examples of just how good and complex English sparkling can be, with well-judged acidity, fresh fruit and fine autolytic notes. If push came to shove I would say Nyetimber, but probably only because of local Sussex pride :smiley:

Whichever one you choose you can’t go wrong, so if you are leaning more towards Hambledon for historical value - go for it! :+1:


#87

Thanks. I was fairly sure both would be good, but I never miss an opportunity to overthink a decision :slight_smile:


#88

I’m completely the opposite! Too rash! :smiley:


#89

I am completely in agreement with @Inbar - they are both excellent wines. I would also add that to my taste they both also improve with a bit of storage in bottle, but not everybody shares my taste, nor is it at all necessary for their enjoyment.


#90

I agree with the above, you won’t go wrong with either. For my tastes they are different wines, Nyetimber is linear with a chalkiness I love, the Hambledon is perhaps more complex with an interplay of flavours on the palate. Both show what fine wine in England can achieve for sure.


#91

My sister in law works in the European Commission in Brussels; she just emailed to say that they had a UK Rep reception the other day, and that an “absolutely delicious sparkling wine was served, and guess what?! It was from Sussex!!”… turns out it was a Nyetimber, which wowed all the delegates.

Nice to hear some good news from Brussels. :wink:


#92

I have to agree with the Brussels’ crowd. A vintage Nytimber will quite easily out drink a non-vintage Champagne of the same price point. That is the point at which English Wine excels. It’s value for money. It’s a story now being told the world over when the price of top old world wines especially Bordeaux and Burgundy have now become based on what people will pay rather than based on cost of production. It’s why the new world (personally I feel English Wine is new world wine) is now a better value product, and for most of us the best way to taste some of the best examples of certain styles of wine.


#93

Am on a break in the Cotswolds, just south of Stroud and I discovered there’s a winery on my doorstep. Has anyone heard of, or tried Woodchester Valley wines before?


#94

So did you try them ??


#95

Never had time in the end, but I popped into their shop and bought two different Bacchus wines and a Blanc de blancs as well. Will report back when we’ve tasted them :slight_smile:


#96

Over the weekend, we took a detour down to Appledore (Kent) to visit Gusbourne vineyard. We’ve tried their wines at various events and restaurants and have always rated them very highly so as we had an hour spare we thought to drop by

They have varying “levels” of visit, from a free tasting and optional self guided tour all the way up to catered packages including fuller tastings. As it was a drop in we were given the “basic” tasting which I have to say was very good

2014 Brut Reserve: Pinot Noir, Chardonnay, Pinot Meunier, 60/22/18. 36 months on lees, nice acidity up front and plenty of “zip”, vanilla and brioche to finish with noticeable fruit. Quite champagne-like in style but not a direct copy

2014 Rose: same grapes as above, higher proportion of Meunier (32%). Quite light to start but finishes much more fruity and “winey” than the Brut Reserve. Touch of salinity. A great example of a sparkling Rose

2014 Blanc de Blancs: Chardonnay. By far the most expensive but what a well balanced and fresh bottle this is. Very different from the Brut Reserve, possibly more delicate. A joy to drink. I wouldn’t say I preferred either this or the Brut Reserve to each other – they are just very different and equally well made

Cherry Garden Rose (still). Pinot noir. This came out as I’d mentioned I’ve rarely found great value in English still wine. It’s a lovely drink – nice aperitif with a clean character and a nice silty background, but at £25 a bottle I didn’t invest

The setup is designed for visitors and like Champagne very much focuses on the brand – it’s a lovely place to spend some time and the staff were extremely knowledgeable and friendly. Generous tasting measures as well – be sure to designate a driver! I’d planned to pick up a bottle or two of the Brut Reserve before we left, but to my surprise my wife signed up on the spot for the “Gusbourne Reserved” club which includes 2 cases of the sparklers above (2 bottles of each, twice a year), money off further wines plus an extra bottle for Rose, access to their back catalogue, some free flutes and a voucher for a guided tour. For a company that don’t discount this actually does represent quite good value as the price is well under what you’d pay for the wines separately

Overall, I’d certainly recommend a visit for anyone in the area. We planned to stay half an hour and were there for 90 minutes - we’re looking forward to going back in July with some friends for a tour and tasting lunch


#97

Sounds lovely, @NickP! They’re definitely on my ‘to visit’ list!

There is no risk of my husband ever doing anything as spontaneous! :roll_eyes:


#98

I really would recommend the trip over, especially if you combine it with a tour

Yeah - she keeps me guessing :rofl:


#99

We just got back from a visit to the (tiny) Kingscote Winery in West Sussex. I got this as a present for my birthday from a friend - very nice it was too! The estate itself is also a working farm, with a fishing lake - a really gorgeous place to spend a couple hours, or picnic.

The wine production is tiny - their main output is the still Bacchus (a very good alternative to SB!), a delightful Chardonnay - though they haven’t produced any Chardonnay between 2014 and 2018 for some reason, and an oaked Bacchus, which they call Fat Fumé - didn’t get to taste it unfortunately

They do one bottling of Blanc de Noirs sparkling; a ‘traditional Cyder’ - which we also tried- done with a second fermentation in bottle - was fantastic.

We ended up buying the 2014 Chardonnay - I was quite impressed with it; a respectable example of an un-oaked, fruity style - but with a lively acidity and quite a long finish.


#100

New one for me today, as I went to Waitrose to buy a bottle of Hambledon for tomorrow:

Renishaw Hall Sparkling Seyval Blanc

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https://www.waitrosecellar.com/renishaw-hall-sparkling-865575

…obviously I couldn’t pass it up, so may try it on Sunday.


#101

Because as our resident king of bubbles, you clearly didn’t have enough :sweat_smile: