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Which ones are new?

I think all of the 08’s and earlier, plus the 2010 Domaine de Bellene NsG 1er Cru and Domaine de Montille Volnay 1er Cru

With regards to reds below £75 per bottle - quite a few including a Denis Mortet 2012 and Chevillon 2014.

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I had a bottle of the 2010 Mortet 6 months or so ago and wasn’t so impressed. Chilled it down as Toby recommends and it still had no real detectable perfume which is a lot of the attraction for pinot. It was £55 so the 2012 has jumped up a fair bit, and I think 2010 and 2012 CDN are similarly well-rated vintages too.


Thanks for posting. This one caught my eye

Domaine Jean Grivot, Clos de Vougeot Grand Cru 2004.

Seems to be, ahem, much cheaper than other vintages of the same wine. Was 2004 a dog? Lots of positive vibes for Grivot on the community but not had one myself. Nor have I ever had a Grand Cru burgundy. Tempted by this, purely for educational purposes of course.

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the tasting notes I have read around were not screaming like “I need to splurge 70 pounds for this wine”

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It is probably below what might be considered ‘market price’, even though 2004 is not generally considered a particularly strong vintage. However, the last 2004 I had, a Jadot Gevrey Chambertin Clos St Jacques, was drinking very nicely indeed. Will this show proper ‘Grand Cru’ pedigree? Difficult to say, but I would hope it is showing at least as well as a mature premier cru from a top producer, and I have gone for a couple on that basis. Getting into buying more mature burgundy can be a little bit of a lottery, but at least from TWS you know that the provenance is impeccable, and probably second only to it having remained at the domaine

This article from Jancis on the Clos d Vougeot vineyard may also be of interest: https://www.jancisrobinson.com/articles/practically-all-about-clos-de-vougeot


Just got an email - looks as though this is the full list of new releases - red & white:



I was thinking of getting some Burgundy out of reserves, it being the season. I was wondering if I should get the 2016 or 2015 Fourrier village Gevrey out. Any thoughts?

I also have some 2005s, most of which I am leaving alone, but I suppose I should get the Grivot village Vosne out, and Jadot’s Beaune Theurons, but I’m not even sure about that.

The 05 Grivot village has been drinking wonderfully for a while, but no rush I’d say. I would not touch the Fourrier for a good few years personally - if you do open one, give it a proper decant to release the dissolved CO2 - it’s just the way Fourrier vinifies.


Thank you, the Fourrier shake I presume. I hoped the Fourrier might not have shut down yet, I like the juiciness of young Burgundy. I think the Grivot is coming out. Not the 1er crus though.


I have enjoyed the 2016 Fourrier recently. Certainly wouldn’t work through my case right now but definitely worth a try. With a Fourrier shake of course!


I have a Chablis question, hopefully this is the right place. I am looking to replenish reserves of this appellation. I think I have a mere 10 bottles. I can see a few tempting 2019s on the website already, but nothing that really leaps out at me. I was wondering about holding out for the EP offer next year. What would be more interesting than both of these would be some bottles with a little more age but the website is particularly bare in this regard. How can I find out if there are any stocks held back that may appear as an alternative to 2019. I don’t expect this would be 2014, but what about the 2017s, or at a pinch 2015 and 16?

Shouldn’t really help the competition on this site, but if you type “Chablis premier cru” into the Lay & Wheeler website you get a listing of 77 wines, 9 EP and 68 older vintages. 61 are available by the bottle, so you could put together an interesting mixed case (or two, or three…)


We have no older stock of Chablis. Sorry. All sold.
There are a few Duplessis 2018s in the Feb list
2019 is good in Chablis. We will offer Fèvre (if they get the samples to me) and Samuel Billaud (already tsted and very good) in our February 2021 Opening Offer.


Many Thanks for confirming Toby, a shame the Society is out, but great to hear that they have had a good year there. I was wondering if the summers there were basically now too hot and the character of the wine was being lost. So good news re 2019 vintage and I think that the upcoming EP offer will solve for the longer term, it is more that I have a short term drought! Last I checked I had just 3 2014s remaining which are lovely at the moment, and then a case of 2018 Samuel Billaud MdT but which has a few more years before the window opens. Maybe the Le Clos is the stop gap measure, although it is beyond what I would normally spend.

And Peter, thanks also. Believe it or not I’ve never bought [real] wine from anyone other than TWS, but in this case maybe I might have to go and have a look.

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Hi Toby

Would you recommend 2015 or 2016 Samuel Billaud les Clos for this years Christmas ?

many thanks

I do not buy the grands crus from Samuel Billaud as they are a bit oaky for my taste. Depends a bit how you like them. Should be open, but won’t have developed tertiary honeyed aromas like Jean-Marc Brocard, Chablis Grand Cru Le Clos 2010


Thanks Toby. Appreciate the response.

We’re having two dishes this Christmas that cry out for white Burgundy: Scallops with black pudding, and lobster thermidor. I don’t have a big selection of bottles to choose from, but would anyone have a suggestion of which of the following would suit those courses best?

2017 Chateau du Clos Pouilly-Fuisse
2017 Francois d’Allaines Rully Tête de Cuvée
2017 Olivier Leflaive Auxey-Duresses Blanc
2018 Domaine Chavy-Chouet Bourgogne Blanc Les Femelottes
2018 Exhibition Saint-Aubin Blanc

Leaning towards the Pouilly-Fuisse with the lobster and Auxey-Duresses with the scallops, but frankly I have no idea!